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PostSubject: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 10:07 am

!Like the title says now!


Last edited by Kellana on Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:08 am; edited 6 times in total (Reason for editing : No DQA anymore, ill let the afkers whee they are now)
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 10:09 am

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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 10:49 am

hmmm, i thought about the idea of random factions and in the beginning, it sounds really awesome but the more you put thought into it, it just doesn't seem as if it will make war better.

secondly. i do disagree with kicking afkers. i get really mad when i dc from war, especially if i purposely went out my way and waited for it to begin or if i've done my part to work for my points and end up DCing near the end. BANNING afkers from war is something i would have to disagree on. i've thought about kicking afkers in war but that doesn't seem possible. for example, what happens if you've worked hard getting points and whatnot and you suddenly need to go bathroom to poo? i think that the only way to do this successfully is if war was personally monitored by someone with authority (GMs, etc.) and kicking cannot be auto but by judgement from them. so to conclude this, if they do decide to kick afkers, it probably wouldn't be a simple task and that it'd take a lot of time get this concept in order and implemented into the game.
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 10:52 am

But there is a difference between being AFK the whole war and just for some min u know.
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 11:00 am

My dqa:

Hi, I know this is a bit desperate attempt as I know ppl are denied to change faction, but basically lower lvl war is now more of sitting around and chatting in parties war than a real war.

So I would love to change to chaos along with some of ppl from light (who has asked for change). If the problem is the higher lvl war I can promise to change back to darkness when I level (not sure when thou). I`m certain the ppl who have asked to change faction are also ready to this kind of deal.

The war balance is again very mixed up, and we really want to fight x.x Leveling up might be other option, but problem remains in higher lvl war and bunch of lvl 60`s cannot really do the difference for balance at the moment in higher lvl war. Besides, lower lvl war when its working is a great experience for new ppl in game, currently its just be bored or get killed type of event (depending which side one is in) - and doesnt add any value for game and when ppl lvl up they will have real problems in higher lvl war.

Thanks,

Br, Riitu

And no, I will never ever kill Neffie x.x and no, I won't be out of the war just because she might be on other side. So that's not basically an answer xD
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 11:05 am

I am sorry to say this things might change but not so soon.
Its gonna take long for them to implement it.

Your ideas have submitted to GM ages ago.
While we are in Asda EU.
I have submitted tones of suggestion as a Game Helper to the GM.
Suggestion such as random team is one of it.
To be honest months ago, I think Dirge also bring up the same suggestion to GM in Asda GC too.
Splitting of lvl for the faction war is something I am happy with.
Its a suggestion I provided to both asda EU and asda GC.
Well it still take ages to implement.

Well my point here is yes continue to dqa what you think is good.
But do not have too high hope.
High hope always leads to disappointment.
Things might change but not as soon as we wish.


Just a small little tips for all.
A new type of war is coming soon. (So we will have 2 different type of war to attend)
Its gonna be different from the current type of war we have.
How its gonna be like and when it will comes?
Honestly I do not have the full details yet.
Just cross our finger that the new war would be fun.
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 11:06 am

Hey, Rii, i'm changing to chaos too! (Or atleast asked for it)
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 11:09 am

Ellie, now i changed the topic, now its just about how ppl think about war.
Anyway, Ill hope that new war is better
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 11:42 am

Yea, i am looking forward to the new war too.
Good things is at least they do split the war in diff lvl.
Infact I ask for it to be 3 split.
lvl 20 to 40 and 41 to 60 and 61 above.
But seem they dont like it.
Reason, cos lvl 20 to 40 are more like new players.
Its the best place for them to experience war and their skill to understand more about asda.
Putting them into a group of lvl 50s is like asking them to go out and just die.
Anyway it is GM decision and we can't change it though.

The way war is right now is like Clan war.
They should change the name to clan war and only clan leader choose the faction and all problem solved.
LOL just joking.
This is annoying I agreed too.


Yea, when its war be it which faction team you are in you kill.
I really dont like people get they emotion mix up.
I still remember back in Asda EU, I do die a few from a specify fellow in our clan but I never whine i just keep move forward.
Where some other specific person in clan got emo alot about being kill in clan and threaten to leave.
LOL, just to prevent similar things from happening again.
I would say war is just a small part of the game.
Please do not take it so serious and get it mix up with some weird emotion.


Honestly, if there is a fix rule.
No afker allow.
Then people will really stop afking.
But when there is no rules, it mean you has a choice.
TO afk or NOT TO afk.
When you has a choice people abuse it.
I do it sometimes too but not everytimes LOL.
Its really natural human reflect, when you have a choice you abuse things especially when it is not illegal.
The worst part is when the battle field is all green base and I am in chaos.
I feel there is no point for me to go out. (There is nothing to do out there)
I would rather eat and drink something. (sorry to say this, its really the best time to take a rest)
The definition of afker is very grey.


Honestly, I do wish ushana can change to chaos.
I have my reason why though.
Look at it we dont really have much bali user in chaos.
It is just azuki is in it or maybe one more guy i dono his name.
Both light and dark has lots of bali user.
We all know that bali user is way over power.
So wat can chaos do if one bali user is at the top of the hill and one at left and one at right side of station 9.
How do u struggle to go out?



Infact, the imbalance of war really come from the imbalance of job.
If the job balancing is fix the war would be pretty much balance up.
I still wish that SG skill cannot be use in war.
Its annoying at the way how much THS and Bali SG skill can do on one person.
Its too overpower. (Actually, I feel mages SG Skill is scary too but not as scary as THS and Bali)


Lastly, the safe zone things and the lag is the only things that annoy the hell out of me at the moment.
Almost all EU and Asia player faces super bad lag in war.
There are times you die without seeing any enemy around you.
So sometimes my question is, with such idiot lag should I go out and get myself kill and give out some free points to our enemy? This piss the hell out of me most of the time.
Lag, also disable me to use skill in war.
Honestly, I press my sleep skill button more than 10 times and it never activate on my enemy and then next things happen is I am kissing the floor.:face: :face: :face: :face:

Safe Zone? Annoying enough when definition is not clear at all.
There is no special indication show in war to notice user where safe zone area start or end at.
Some player lag. But they are really outside of safe zone in their screen but it appear they are in safe zone area in other people screen. Being scam that you attack in safe zone is hell annoying too.
As a mage, you try to heal from safe zone, that is being complain by people again.
So a healer should go out to heal?
Before they can heal from outside i think they are already dead.
At times I feel people is using this safe zone grey issues to ban people they hate?
How wonderful this safe zone ban things has become.


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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 12:12 pm

hmmm,what do i think about war..

disbalanced. and weird.

as the pvp system here in the whole.

it seems to meh that they just added it in the end not even thinkin about classes balance and else. some classes are overpowered others just suck.

played several other mmo games,and they had muuuuch better pvp system,so after other games,this pvp seems even worse.

im going to wars only cos of war gear. cos it's rly worth having it.

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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 12:34 pm

Reply on hrd's post -> Maybe they didn't think that much about war, especially dmg.
warrior vs. mage its kinda impossible.
But actually...if a warrior meets someone...at a warrior class its all about speed, attack as first.
Cuz i'm mage, when I pain a warrior of my same lvl, mostly, I just kill them.
Just bcuz I attacked first that time.
Why warriors are overpowerd? Their stun. Grenade is actually just fatal to mages.
If they stun me, I'm dead, I know that immediatly.
But archers can kill warriors too.
Think about trap. Then they can't attack as long as you take distance from them.
Archers also have longer attack range. Warriors need "contact' with their enemy.
Mages and archers don't need that. We can sleep or trap them while we actually can take more distance.

Reply on Ellie's post -> About Safe Zone (Also home base called). Only archers or mages can attack from base. (Or warriors with SG) But mostly, we can do something about that.
Just take distance away from their base. Over that mage-healing-thing: They should allow. Healing is not giving ppl damage. So u can't kill ppl with healing. And lagg: Yes, I think all ppl hate it. Especially when u die before u even can think about wha'ts happening. The solution?
No more AFK'ing.

My post xD :
What I just can be seriously mad about? AfK'ers. And then specially the ppl who AFK and open a shop. It causes even more lagg. Now u see shops, not in the base, but on the battlefield. Why?
Cuz ppl can't use common anymore. So their new solution is shops.
If they just make a new war with these points in it, I think lots of ppl will be happy:
- No more AFK'ing. If u AFK a whole war, no char ban, but a war-ban for 3 days or something.
- No more shops. Not any shop. They should disable shop function in war.
- No more SG'ing to or from bases. This will make everybody happy I think.
- No more archers that attack u with arrows while u are in base.
- Actually, no more any attack to or from safe base. (I say attack, not heal)
- Common chat in war. U still need an explaination?
- More war. Not in the meaning of each hour a war, but more wars for different lvls.
- More class balance. Its just so :x that a lower lvl warrior can kill me. Just bcuz I'm a mage.
(Points on over-population of warriors)

U see (almost) all my points start with "no more". Why? Cuz ppl do this in war.
I think that's everything I could say xD

Kell~
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 12:42 pm

i dont mean that. it normal that mage diea easily from dd and so on.

i mean that terrible 1hit kills, i've never met them before. when i have 160k hp and recieve 460k dmg its rly rly weird.

and when archer nearly oneshots pure ohs tank (hello shau),this is just idk how to explain. just funny. and no comment. this is not normal in my point of view.. :shock:
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 12:48 pm

That's true. The point of getting more dmg that can be 4x your hp.
Or even more. Thats about the point about dmg balance.
I even can't give dmg as much as my hp.
And the point is, I get that x4 dmg from a same lvl'er. Most of the times? A warrior.
Sometimes I even tought about job war.
First it looks nice.
But then u think its gonna be really boring.
Really really boring.
So if they fix the dmg balance, lots of ppl would be happy(Except the warriors).
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 12:59 pm

i hardly tgink that devs care about it..

all u can do is to get wargear. spend xxxx $ on upgrades. do it. and kill like oters 1hit. 🇳🇴
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 1:05 pm

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They should care about that. x.x
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyTue Jul 13, 2010 2:17 am

lol i'm on Dark will take me FOREVER 2 get hero war gear
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyTue Jul 13, 2010 1:07 pm

O.O

Well, I almost have mine o.o
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyTue Jul 13, 2010 6:10 pm

I dunno, but I always feel like bait for more powerfull clannies in war o.o and that feels wrong o.o
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyFri Jul 16, 2010 4:19 am

pain to all those who come near me and are not welcome i guess is my deffinition.
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptySun Aug 22, 2010 10:06 am

This new war is great, but problem is... Bug abuse. Ppl use that annoying Behead bug, which is not strong, but dot of that is bugged. It hits negative dmg and you die. For me it says "You have received -23000 damage from Thebel skill" or something like that.

I have already send DQA to GMs, but they haven't answered yet.

Using this bug is considered illegal and i hope ppl in clan don't use it, abusing bugs is forbidden in clan rules. onion10

Ppl also use lot of ths shield bug in war.
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 5:53 am

New ballista skill is also bugged, it causes negative damage too (bleeding) and I can 2hit mobs in coch..
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 6:06 am

phew. that's why all are exping too fast. onion30
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 7:34 am

it's not like every hit, but every 3rd hit that causes this odd damage, especially when combined with spear new aoe skill...
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 1:05 pm

well one person is 78 2-3 ppl 77. this is extremely quickly..
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PostSubject: Re: Give your meaning of war!   Give your meaning of war! EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 7:36 pm

hey rii wanna come pt with me on your balli? ima go get a spear :D
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